9 comments to “Is compulsory desexing ethical?”

  1. Barb | July 16, 2012 | Permalink

    Compulsory de-sexing is ethical and should be made mandatory. The amount of unwanted cats & dogs that end up at the pound, shelter or rescue is unbelievable, and also the killing rate is horrendous. I believe that if your pet is not de-sexed you should be fined (Unless, of course you’re a legitimate dog or cat breeder)

  2. savingpets | July 16, 2012 | Permalink

    @Barb,

    Yup – that’s what gets said a lot. No a lot of evidence to support your position however. Read the piece.

  3. Stuart | July 16, 2012 | Permalink

    Barb, the points you raise are all covered in the article if you’d bothered to read it. Can you tell me how many suburbs of mandatorily de-sexed, contained pets it takes to counter one year’s production of puppies from Freedom Farms 300+ bitches? Why should my dogs health be sacrificed to a doomed social experiment that does not address the real issue – the puppy mill mentality that supplies impulse purchases of companion animals. Commercial breeders are registered and “legitimate” – and they are also a major part of the problem. My alternative: 1. make it illegal to offer a companion animal for sale without a registered microchip. 2. Introduce a puppy “Lemon Law” whereby the seller is liable to contribute up to the price charged for the puppy in vet bills if incurred to hereditary issues in the puppies first year (cripples the pet store sales venue and damages the puppy miller unless they start giving a damn about health over profit). 3. Make registered owners accountable for their pet – if it’s loose and damages a vehicle, you pay, if it bites someone, you pay, if it ends up in rescue, you pay. All achieved without taking a knife to my dog to salve other peoples consciences.

  4. Ron | July 16, 2012 | Permalink

    This blog is the biggest load of shit I have ever seen. I desex hundreds and hundreds of animals a year and never lost a single one. Mandatory desexing should be in every state and territory in Australia. If you don’t desex your cat and allow it to breed you are killing animals in shelters.

  5. savingpets | July 16, 2012 | Permalink

    @Ron,

    When I buy baby paracetemol it comes with a fold out flyer of information and potential side effects. If a GP burns off a mole, he’ll detail the risks and outcomes. Everything has an element of risk.

    Removing an animal’s reproductive organs, is surgery. It’s nearly always, when done by a skillful vet – and under consultation with said vet – a very good thing for pets. But it is not completely risk free.

    However on their (laudable) mission to eliminate shelter killing, animal advocacy groups present desexing as no more involved than a hair cut. Worse, they present mandatory desexing as a solution to our animal welfare issues in the absence of any evidence to its effectiveness.

    I believe in using our limited animal control resources, doing something that works. Mandatory desexing is a failure on every count.

    (PS. if you think people breeding cats is why shelters kill, you don’t know much about shelter population dynamics)

  6. bethany | July 17, 2012 | Permalink

    I agree with Ron,
    you are not sacrificing your pet’s health to desex it, that is ridiculous and I am horrified that this discussion is even taking place, and frightned that someone will walk away with the idea not to desex their cat. Desexing should be mandatory in all but very specific curcumstances (and there are certainly a few good reasons for dogs, but I cannot think of many for cats) and we should NOT be discussing any other options until the euthanasia rates are down to, say, 5% in our shelters. anyone who thinks otherwise should go and spend a few days at a shelter and see up to 300 cats per week being handed in. Stuart’s ideas are nice (and no sane person will argue with him to support puppy farms of course!!) but are unlikely to work in practice because it would be too hard to police – basically most people wont follow the rules and dont give a rats and dont care if their pet runs off and gets another pet pregant, or has cute little babies themselves. Then that horse has bolted…. I dont want to give this proposal any legs but I need to ensure that the reality is represented.

  7. savingpets | July 17, 2012 | Permalink

    @Bethany – Did you even read the piece before you banged out your response? Because if you had, you’d have seen that in the case of cats the report described desexing cats, both male and female, almost entirely positively.

    That said, this idea that we in ‘animal welfare’ have the right to not only override the medical decisions that would traditionally be made by vets (you know, animal doctors) and legislate our opinions, but also then spurn anyone who dares look at the *actual research* on *actual outcomes*… just furthers the divide between us and serious, evidence based solutions to our animal issues.

    Seems to me mandatory desexing is more religion than science.

  8. Tim | July 19, 2012 | Permalink

    Shel

    A well researched piece.

    Your remark (in a comment) about the religion of mandatory desexing seems to be increasingly accurate as time goes by. And anybody who challenges the idea of mandatory desexing is called a heretic.

    But the world of biology is never as black and white as we would wish for.

    Anybody who says that desexing is a “simple, safe and risk-free” procedure is ignoring some fundamentals on surgical and anaesthetic physiology. Veterinary Surgeons Boards counsel vets against making such statements to their clients, and indeed recommend that clients are asked to sign surgical consent forms which intentionally spell out the risks.

    Your commentary on whether it is ethical for coercive legislation to be applied to a surgical procedure that is not risk-free is entirely appropriate at this point in the debate.

  9. savingpets | July 19, 2012 | Permalink

    A ‘heretic’ would be the nicest thing I’ve been called since this bit went out ;)